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November 18, 2007 at 3:11 pm in reply to: Seeking information re: Expedited teaching credential for CA #7646Bryan G NelsonParticipant
Yes!!
Kitt is so correct and I appreciate him sharing his perspective.
In fact, I loved working with young children.
Bryan
November 12, 2007 at 7:13 am in reply to: Seeking information re: Expedited teaching credential for CA #7642Bryan G NelsonParticipantHello, William,
I’ve sent you an e-mail but I also wanted to post a reply here.Great to hear from you.
The first thing I suggest is that you look at this page – it’s a great summary of wanting to be a teacher:
It’s likely to be easier to be hired to teach high school students then earlier grades (more people are more interested in working with younger children because they believe they are easier to manage).
I’m sure you can appreciate that there are similarities and differences with teaching high school versus college – but – good pedagogy is universal.
An important approach is to do an information interview with a male teacher in the city or region you want to work. Ask around, men are out there teaching.
Another resource is The New Teacher Project go to: http://www.tntp.org to see their work around career changers and alternative certifcation.
I’m not certain about California but the links in our Resource pages should be useful as would reviewing the Dept. of Education in California.
From my experience – I also teach teachers at a university – the difference is that there is many more requirements to teach in high school than in the university. In the university – once you secure your PhD or EdD then you are struggling with securing tenure. In high school you have to have, as you obviously know, a license AND then you also have to struggle to secure tenure.
It’s a great career change – it has it’s challenges – but – truly – children need men.
I’ve seen hundreds of men make the career change and know you can do it to if you are persistent.
Keep in touch and let me know you process – we like to let others know how others make the transition.
Regards,
Bryan
Bryan G NelsonParticipantThanks for your comments. I agree with you that it is important for men to change diapers.
I know it DOES sound strange and contradictory that people say that they want more men (viz. fathers) to care for their children but you are correct that many men are restricted from working with babies and this exclusion represents something.
In my experience, many people are afraid of men. They are afraid men are going to harm young children, especially sexually. They usually cite the data that more men harm young children then women.
First, I share everyone’s desire to have children be safe. I never want a child to be hurt by ANYONE. But the information about men harming children is distorted because it doesn’t focus on all the types of harm that happens to children and who is perpetrator is. The data shows that a child is more likely to be harmed in their own home then in schools or centers. Rather than restrict men from changing babies diapers, it’s really necessary to develop policies that protect our children from ALL people.
Too often those policies are about restricting men and in some cases all teachers from giving ANY touch to children. That is an absolutely ludicrious plan. Children need caring touch otherwise they do not thrive. There are many studies showing how harmful it is for children to not receive nurturing touch.
It is better to have policies where no teachers (male or female) is alone with children. That there be a thorough screening of employees (viz. references, background checks) and proper supervision. And there needs to be an open door policy for parents to come visit the program at any time.
Finally, there is no question about making certain our children are safe. And we also need to challenge the stereotypes about men and work to help young boys learn about nurturing to help men grow up to be caring men and we also need to restrict access by women who harm children so that the cycle of harm is stopped.
Bryan
Bryan G NelsonParticipantHi Lisa,
In the book The Importance of Men Teachers…we offer on this website, you’ll find an excellent summary of the history as well as a bibliography of the history of men teachers.
Bryan
Bryan G NelsonParticipantHi, Merritt (and others),
Sorry I haven’t replied sooner, it’s been quite busy here at MenTeach. I’d love to talk with you more about your research. I’ve sent an e-mail that hopefully you received.
Will you be in Chicago at the NAEYC conference?
Bryan
P.S. Which DVD did you order?
Bryan G NelsonParticipantHi, David,
Yes, I do believe people would hire you – especially if you are willing to move.
Go to the resources on the MenTeach website in the Resources section and you’ll find information about Alternative Credentialing.
Drop me an e-mail when you have additional questions.
Bryan
Bryan G NelsonParticipantThere is a good resource for finding teaching jobs, not in all markets or regions, in select markets.
This is taken from their site:
Recruitment Programs and Initiatives for Traditionally Certified Teachers
In addition to its alternate routes to certification, TNTP operates other recruitment initiatives designed to attract and hire high-quality teachers who are already licensed to teach.These include:
* Oakland City Teacher Corps
* Teach KIPP-YES (Houston, TX)
* Teach California Charters NEW!
* Teach Charleston NEW!
* Teach Memphis
* TeachNOLA (New Orleans, LA)You’ll find additional lists of resources here: Resources
Bryan G NelsonParticipantHi, Chuck and gscalerajr,
I’m really glad both of you posted. There needs to be additional experienced voices heard about what the struggles are for men in teaching.
I agree that the NBC was a very short piece – almost all national news are soundbites that rarely go into the depth that an issue deserves.
How did you find MenTeach.org? My guess is that it was from watching NBC Nightly News.
I think it served our purpose and why MenTeach spent the time finding a young man to represent our profession well.
With over 8 million viewers, I think we got a message out. That there are fewer men. And this has gone on for over 100 years – except after World War II and the GI Bill when there was a dramatic increase of men teachers.
I would welcome your help at making this site useful for experienced teachers like yourself. We are run by volunteers so perhaps both of you would like to help out.
What are your suggestions? And what would, using volunteer time, make this site better?
Bryan
Bryan G NelsonParticipantIt really depends on where you live AND what age/subject you teach.
Chicago has a glut of teachers and teacher education programs.
Check out this posting:
Some districts are paying bonuses
If you teach special education – you can pretty much write your ticket anywhere in the USA.
So – unfortunately, you may have to move.
Bryan
Bryan G NelsonParticipantThanks so much for your comments. What an amazing story of following your vision and dream.
Bryan
September 28, 2007 at 10:03 am in reply to: helping young girls overcome issues w/ male teachers #8130Bryan G NelsonParticipantGood questions.
I think it’s extremely important to have a mentor that can help one work through any problems. My concern comes from your statement that you received no guidance or feedback. The reason we spend time as students is so that we can learn.
Look through the website and you’ll find some articles that address some of your questions.
What are you doing now?
Let us know.
Bryan
Bryan G NelsonParticipantHey,
I love your revised site. I also am totally impressed with the NZ Summit and report.
Great to see the great work you are doing.
Bryan
September 21, 2007 at 9:52 am in reply to: Even Rarer Birds: Men In Elementary Special Education – My Introducation #7918Bryan G NelsonParticipantI really enjoyed the story of your work and career. Fascinating!
I meet so many interesting men working in this field and and always reminded how fortunate children are to have such good men in their daily lives.
Thanks so much for sharing your story.
Bryan
Bryan G NelsonParticipantFantastic!
I think it would be good to make this a ongoing list that we keep adding to!
Regards,
Bryan
Bryan G NelsonParticipantHi, Melinda,
Good questions.
First, when my own children first attended school, when both my son and daughter first started school they sometimes were nervous (they had female teachers) and my son had stomach aches. We helped him by playing with him and talking about it. The play was the best thing to do since he couldn’t always explain or articulate what exactly was making him nervous.
So – it happens for boys and girls for any new situation.
Second, I think it’s great to talk with the teacher. I always wanted parents to come to me with any concern. Obviously, I don’t know the male teachers so cannot say whether it is their gender or whether their style of teaching or personality.
Again – I think the best approach is to – in a nonconfrontational manner – ask for the teacher’s help in resolving the child’s concerns.
I’d love to hear what you figured out with your 4th grade male teacher. Did you ever have another male teacher again in later grades? How did that go?
Bryan
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